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Moderators: Peter Thomsen, miker chillowack Posts: 45 Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:53 am Is there a way to put ties (or slurs) on an entire measure full of notes? Tie them all together with one action (rather than going through and doing it individually, note by note)?Thanks. --> miker Posts: 6171 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:01 pm They are two different things. Ties are from one note to another note OF THE SAME PITCH, indicating that the note is held for the combined value. So they have to go note-to-note.A slur indicates phrasing. You double click and hold on the first note, drag to the last note, and release. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society chillowack Posts: 45 Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:53 am Post by chillowack » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:46 pm Thanks, miker.For slurs: when you double-click and hold the first note, which icon needs to be selected in order for the dragging to result in a slurred phrase?Would it be the Smart Shape Tool? miker Posts: 6171 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:53 pm You are correct. It's the Smart Shape slur. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society

What I started with.If you can post a screen shot of what you have, we may be able to make suggestions. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society ebiggs1 Posts: 1523 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:57 am Finale Version: Finale 27.3 Operating System: Windows Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:46 pm Convert your pdf to a tiff. Smartscore uses tiff files. Finale 27.4.1 - Perfect Layout Silver - Note Performer 4.4 - SmartScore Pro 64 - Windows 11President, The Shawnee Concert Band, Composer/Arranger, retired Music Teacher. miker Posts: 6171 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:41 pm SmartScore does that automatically. No need to convert. If you tell it to recognize the PDF, the first thing it does is convert it to TIFF. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society ebiggs1 Posts: 1523 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:57 am Finale Version: Finale 27.3 Operating System: Windows Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:47 pm It seems to me that if I do the conversion I get better results, so that is my practice I set to dpi very high. Finale 27.4.1 - Perfect Layout Silver - Note Performer 4.4 - SmartScore Pro 64 - Windows 11President, The Shawnee Concert Band, Composer/Arranger, retired Music Teacher. motet Posts: 8928 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:01 pm As someone who worked on OCR long ago, I'm guessing that if you set DPI very high, it's just going to convert it back to 300 or 600, which may be lossy. Just like looking at something with a magnifying glass, at high resolution you're seeing more noise and jagged edges. miker Posts: 6171 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:41 am SmartScore recommends greyscale, 300 DPI. That’s always worked for me. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society ebiggs1 Posts: 1523 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:57 am Finale Version: Finale 27.3 Operating System: Windows Post by ebiggs1 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:00 am miker wrote:SmartScore recommends greyscale, 300 DPI. That’s always worked for me.I have been setting my converter to 400 dpi "That’s always worked for me." Finale 27.4.1 - Perfect Layout Silver - Note Performer 4.4 - SmartScore Pro 64 - Windows 11President, The Shawnee Concert Band, Composer/Arranger, retired Music Teacher. motet Posts: 8928 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:35 am 400 seems reasonable. When you said "very high" i was thinking you meant 1200 or something like that. John335 Posts: 42 Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:26 am Finale Version: Finale 26,27 Operating System: Mac

Window when I went to install it; That can be ignored, it won't stop it from working OK until (so it's predicted) the OS after Mojave. Finale 26.3 & 27.4Mac 11.7.10 & 14.7.4 John335 Posts: 42 Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:26 am Finale Version: Finale 26,27 Operating System: Mac Post by John335 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:16 pm Hey Mike,My OS is 10.13.6 miker Posts: 6171 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:35 pm John,At 10.13, you shouldn’t have a problem. I used it since it was introduced, and SmartScore worked fine. Did you hear form their tech support? Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society John335 Posts: 42 Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:26 am Finale Version: Finale 26,27 Operating System: Mac Post by John335 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:02 am Hey Mike,As of today they're still trying to figure it out. Since then I've installed 26 on my Mini and I get the same response. Now, If I export an MXL file from 2012 it will import into 2012 but not 25 or 26, and that's on both computers. It's crazy. Hopefully soon they will figure out the problem. There has been no lack of communication from them. They've been great about this.John miker Posts: 6171 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:15 pm I'm having problems, myself, with SmartScore Pro and Mojave. The cursor doesn't change form to reflect which tool is chosen. Tech support tells me that some, but not all, users have reported this. There is no solution from them, except to wait until they release a new 64-bit version, but no release date.I created a bootable startup drive with High Sierra (thanks, Mike H.) and use that when I need SSP.Music MXL is an extended form of XML. You can read about it here: ... irefox-b-1 Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society John335 Posts: 42 Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:26 am Finale Version: Finale 26,27 Operating System: Mac Post by John335 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:09 am I trashed the User Directory twice on my main computer as per their instructions and right now it's importing XML files without any problems, but I did the same on my Mini but it's still not working. The said that they have never seen this before ebiggs1 Posts: 1523 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:57 am Finale Version: Finale 27.3 Operating System: Windows Post by ebiggs1 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:30 pm For whatever reason, I have, at random, some xml files that Finale 25 and now 26 won't read. I then try them with Finale 2014.5 and they import just fine. All mine are created fro Smartscore X2 Pro. I am not computer savvy enough to offer

Pm Peadar Mac, can you post an image of what you want to achieve, with fingerings? Finale 26.3, 27.4.1Windows 10 motet Posts: 8915 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:36 pm . Last edited by motet on Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:44 pm, edited 2 times in total. miker Posts: 6169 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:46 pm We’ve tried that, Motet. He wants the hooks to remain vertical, not perpendicular to the line. That’s why I suggested the shape expression, instead. The drawback to that is that the length of the hook changes, as you move the angle or scaling of the shape. It can be worked around, by using a few different “starting” drawings. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society motet Posts: 8915 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:51 pm Ah, OK. Anders Hedelin Posts: 773 Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:34 am Finale Version: Finale 26, 27.4.1 Operating System: Windows Post by Anders Hedelin » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:02 pm Here's a workaround. I don't doubt that there might be better ones, but this is what came to mind:Sloping bracket.PNGThe bracket is defined like this in the tuplet definition window:Tuplet bracket dedfinition.PNGThe hooks may be elongated, remaining vertical, in the same tuplet definition window. Finale 26.3, 27.4.1Windows 10 motet Posts: 8915 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:11 pm Like this? I used a vertical line character for "Left Start" and "Right End" and fiddled with "Position." Last edited by motet on Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:25 pm, edited 1 time in total. miker Posts: 6169 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:52 pm I just drew the 3 lines in Shape Designer. Blow it up to 400 or even 800%, to get the verticals attached to the angled line. But, as always, whatever works for you! Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society motet Posts: 8915 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:54 pm But if you have many to apply, woudn't that be tedious? Peter Thomsen Posts: 6776 Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2003 6:47 pm Finale Version: Finale v27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:26 pm miker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:52 pm… I just drew the 3 lines in Shape Designer. Blow it up to 400 or even 800%, to get the verticals attached to the angled line …In the

Moderators: Peter Thomsen, miker Peadar Mac Posts: 4 Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:01 am Finale Version: Finale 26.3 Operating System: Mac Is anyone aware of a tool in Finale for creating harp fingering brackets (or alternatively some kind of work around)? These brackets are much the same as the ‘double ended bracket’ found in the ‘Smart Shape Tools’ except that the angle of the horizontal portion of the bracket can be altered so that it does not have to default to being parallel to the lines of the staff (that is, in much the same way as the angle of note beams can be altered in Finale).Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks — Peadar. --> miker Posts: 6169 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:03 am Go into the custom line dialog, duplicate the bracket you want, and edit it. Uncheck “keep horizontal” and you will be good to go. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society Peadar Mac Posts: 4 Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:01 am Finale Version: Finale 26.3 Operating System: Mac Post by Peadar Mac » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:47 am Thank you, Miker, for your reply to my dilemma. I’m not sure whether I’ve gone by the route you’ve suggested or not. Here are the steps I took:‘Option-clinking’ the ‘Custom Line Tool’ in the ‘Smart Shapes’ window brought up the ‘Smart Line Selection’ window. I duplicated the plain line option and clicking the ‘edit’ button brought up the ‘Smart Line Designer’ window. I edited the line by adding descending hooks at each end to form a bracket. I left the ‘Horizontal’ check-box unchecked so that the angle of the line could be altered.The resulting tool is close to what I’m after except that whatever angle I set the line at, the ‘hooks’ are always set at 90 degrees to the line, whereas the effect I’m after has the ‘hooks’ set vertically, independent of the angle of the line (much the same as the angles of note beams can be altered while the note stems remain vertical).I can’t find a setting in the ‘Smart Line Designer’ to overcome this problem. miker Posts: 6169 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:05 am the only thing I can think of is a couple of expressions. You can create them with lines. If you click the box to Allow Horizontal Stretching, you can even move them around, although too much change in the angle does strange things to the legs.Try it, though. I surprised myself! Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society Anders Hedelin Posts: 773 Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:34 am Finale Version: Finale 26, 27.4.1 Operating System: Windows Post by Anders Hedelin » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:54

Two settings at ‘1’ so that the bracket would be ‘attached’ to the initial note selected without altering the values of the following notes in the bar. The ‘Number’ setting is set to ‘nothing’. The ‘Break Slur or Bracket’ box is unchecked, and the ‘Match Length of Hooks’ box is also unchecked.Finger Placements Example 3.pngSuccess!Thank you all again.Peadar motet Posts: 8915 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:32 pm Since the tuplet bracket's purpose is to bracket notes, that seems like a clever solution. Looks like you can use "Set Default" in the Tuplet tool to make things easier if you're doing several in a row. OCTO Posts: 293 Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:43 am Finale Version: 25 Operating System: Mac Post by OCTO » Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:42 pm Sorry for maybe being ignorant, but can't just a bracket do the job?scrsht 2020-08-05 at 22.41.12.jpg www.notat.io - A Forum devoted to the Practice of Music Notation motet Posts: 8915 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:17 pm That's a possibility. You do have to uncheck "Make horizontal" each time. The hooks are rather small, though, and I don't see any way to edit that shape. The ones you can edit via the custom line tool maintain a 90-degree angle between line and hook, which the O.P. didn't want. Do you know how to edit that shape? miker Posts: 6169 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:18 pm Octo,The bracket has the hooks at 90 degrees to the line. (It goes without saying that you would make the hooks longer, and uncheck “horizontal.”) So, if you tilt the line, the hooks will remain at 90 degrees. The OP wants the hooks to stay vertical, regardless of the tilt of the lines. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society motet Posts: 8915 Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:33 pm Finale Version: 2014.5,2011,2005,27 Operating System: Windows Post by motet » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:40 pm That one does keep the hooks vertical. But I don't see any way to make the hooks longer. zuill Posts: 4418 Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:35 pm Finale Version: Finale 2011-v26.3.1 Operating System: Windows Post by zuill » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:00 am That's done in Smart Shape Options.Zuill Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1"When all is said and done, more is said than done." miker Posts: 6169 Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 pm Finale Version: Finale 27.4 Operating System: Mac Post by miker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:03 am I used -72 EVPUs. That’s the same as the repeat bracket. Finale 27 | SmartScorePro 64Mac OS 13.2.1 VenturaCopyist for Barbershop Harmony Society