Dassem ultor

Cities = Africa. Consider everyone from here to be black. Quick Ben, Kalam, Lostara Yil, they are all described as dark-skinned. Yes, almost everyone in the Whirlwind Camp will have been black, since it was the resistance movement of a continent with a black population. MT spoilers: The Dal Honese are also described as black. They seem to be like a plains-dwelling African tribe. So Kellanved is black, Dassem Ultor (half-Dal Honese, half ?) is part black. Not sure where Dancer originated from, so not sure of his skin colour. Was he a Seven Cities native too? That's an interesting point you make about a Middle Eastern-equivalent on the Malazan World, I can't think of any region in the books that corresponds to that area, and you would expect there to be. 0 Back to top Back to top of the page up there ^ #3 Imperium Corruo Group: Malaz Regular Posts: 109 Joined: 15-November 06 Posted 04 September 2007 - 03:18 AM To me the entire Seven Cities area is analogous to the Middle East. I always pictured people from here as mostly looking Middle Eastish with a smaller subgroup being black. When I read "dusky skin" I think light brown. I don't know why, I just realized it does not really fit.Everywhere else seems to be predominantly white in my reading. Of course that's probably my personal assumptions at work, but I don't think it has ever blatantly been contradicted. 0 Back to top Back to top of the page up there ^ #4 Kurt Montandon Group: High House Mafia Posts: 571 Joined: 17-May 05 Location:California Posted 04 September 2007 - 07:47 AM Imperium Corruo;207210 said:To me the entire Seven Cities area is analogous to the Middle East. I always pictured people from here as mostly looking Middle Eastish with a smaller subgroup being black. When I read "dusky skin" I think light brown. I don't know why, I just realized it does not really fit.Everywhere else seems to be predominantly white in my reading. Of course that's probably my personal assumptions at work, but I don't think it has ever blatantly been contradicted.Itko Kanese (such as Apsalar) are somewhat Asian, and Dal Honese (Dassem Ultor, the Emperor, Iskaral Pust) are black.There are some whites - "fair skinned peoples" in Seven Cities, as mentioned in a later book.The Barghast seem to be darker skinned, at least that's my

#1 Group: Malaz Regular Posts: 83 Joined: 20-April 05 Posted 20 April 2005 - 06:11 PM Was Dassem the Knight of High House Death before he joined the Malazan Empire ans became First Sword, or was it the other way around?What makes me think that he was the Knight of Death before becomming the First Sword is the story about him being present at the Chaining (which I know is a complicated subject; what with it happening more than once and all).On the other hand I seem to recall one of the BB once saying that Dassem had accepted the position of the Knight of Hood after he had been the First Sword for some time. I think this conversation was during the GotM, where there are some inconsistancies; I dont have that book anymore .Newbi Here>>Long time Wotmaniac 0 Back to top Back to top of the page up there ^

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 12:06 PM The Falari must be Irish then? ... what with their red hair, drinking habits and crazy temper (Yes, all falari must be like stormy)I remember Dal Honese as being black as night, not just brown by the way, allthough I might be wrong. 0 Back to top Back to top of the page up there ^ #10 The Shorn Group: Malaz Regular Posts: 5 Joined: 29-May 07 Posted 04 September 2007 - 12:11 PM HAHA! I just read about the Falari having red hair and beards and thought about mentioning it. But you got their first lol! Guess that makes my questions even more complex if there are Irish/Scottish looking people too! 0 Back to top Back to top of the page up there ^ #11 Dolorous Menhir Group: Wiki Contributor Posts: 4,550 Joined: 31-January 06 Posted 04 September 2007 - 06:33 PM kmmontandon;207244 said:Er, the Seven Cities pretty clearly are a cross between North Africa and the Middle East. Desert tribes, nomadic horse cultures, the names and people have a very Arabic feel to them, etc. To me, the Seven Cities are roughly analogous to N. Africa and the Middle East of about seven centuries ago - essentially a region of some ethnic diversity, but with more to unite than divide along cultural lines.Ok, I failed to pick up on this entirely. I just had the simple picture in my head of "Seven Cities = Africa," when things aren't actually that straightforward.Shiara;207263 said:Seven Cities natives aren't descended from the First Empire - I got the impression the dark-skinned people moved in after the T'lan Imass destroyed what was left of the First Empire of humans after their failed ritual.That's good to know, but where does it come from in the books?Sombra;207265 said:And of course we can't speculate here about what racial types may be on the other continents (spoilers - no more Lether comments! ), or in the novellas.Sorry about that, I've put it behind spoilers. Got carried away. 0 Back to top Back to top of the page up there ^ #12 Imperial Historian Group: Administrators Posts: 7,882 Joined: 08-February 04 Posted 05 September 2007 - 09:01 PM As you may have noticed SE doesn't do description much, but we do have the following information:The Dal Honese (where kellanved, dassem, duiker and iskaral pust hail from (all described as black)) are

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